GENERAL TOPICS
How good is the Potty Sniffer at eliminating odor?
The Sniffer pump completes 3 to 4 air exchange per minute for a standard size toilet bowl, which exceeds the ANSI Z9.5-2012 for laboratory fume hood requirements. Read through our How It Works – Odor Sniffing section for a full explanation.
For comparison, a small bathroom – 6′ x 5′ with 8′ ceiling (240 cubic feet) is normally fitted with a 50 cubic feet per minute (CFM) bathroom exhaust fan. To complete the same number of air exchanges would require a bathroom exhaust fan rated for 720 to 960 CFM. For comparison, an electric leaf blower is normally rated for 400 CFM, so you would need to install two of these in place of a bathroom fan to achieve the same results for the room as a Sniffer pump drawing odors directly from the bowl.
More importantly, our users and their families that have been involved in our testing have been surprised and impressed with the performance of the Potty Sniffer system and how clean the finished installation looks. We are so confident that the Potty Sniffer will work for you that we are offering a 90-day customer satisfaction guarantee with every kit that we sell.
Can a Potty Sniffer replace a regular bathroom exhaust fan?
No. The Potty Sniffer is designed to perform a very specific odor elimination task, which it does extremely well without needing additional help from a bathroom fan. The main purpose of a bathroom fan is to remove damp air to prevent mold and moisture damage to the room. Most municipalities now require new homes to include bathroom exhaust fans with some allowable exceptions. Older homes built before bathroom fans were required by code normally feature an exterior window for ventilation.
Won't sewer gases or water flow back up through the tubing and into my bathroom?
No. The air pump design includes check valves that prevent gases or fluids from backflowing through the tubing.
Will the Sniffer pump be damaged if it sucks in water?
No, the Sniffer pump is designed to handle accidental water pumping conditions without being damaged. However, improper adjustment of the air intake shroud or tank fill level that allows for water to be sucked into the pump during use will result in premature pump bearing failure.
In case of accidental water suction we recommend running the Sniffer pump for approximately 20 minutes to dry out the pump.
How long will a Sniffer pump last for?
Our Sniffer pump durability test units have been achieving 2,500 – 3,500 hours of running time under various testing conditions. Assuming an average use of 5 times per day at 6 mins per cycle, this suggests an expected service life of somewhere between 13 to 20 years under normal operation.
Does the Potty Sniffer meet building code requirements?
Building and plumbing codes vary by state, municipality, and city so you will need to check with your local requirements for applicability. This will be required for any new home construction or bathroom renovations requiring permits and building code inspection. While we designed the Potty Sniffer system to conform to the Uniform Plumbing Code (UPC), toilet ventilation systems are not specifically covered within the scope of the code and is subject to interpretation by local building code inspectors.
When updating an existing toilet a permit is typically not required, and the Potty Sniffer is sold as an aftermarket product for DIY installation.
For new construction projects, we recommend a direct to exterior (through wall) air exhaust configuration, same as for a regular bathroom fan, if building codes don’t allow for a drain water vent (DWV) pipe connection.
Are saddle style fittings like those used for the Potty Sniffer air exhaust connections allowed?
Building codes differ by city and municipality and you will need to verify locally to be sure.
The IAPMO Uniform Plumbing Code (UPC) section 310.1 (pg. 60) regarding “Fittings” states that “No double hub fitting, single or double tee branch… or saddle shall be used as a drainage fitting…”. The IAPMO 2015 UPC Illustrated Training Manual clarifies that “These fittings are prohibited because either they are not true drainage fittings with contoured edges to allow proper flow into and down the pipe or they contain obstructions that may cause blockages.”
From the wording of the clause and explanation in the training manual, the restriction on saddle style fittings is for use as a drainage fitting for water. The Potty Sniffer exhaust fittings are meant to be used for venting air. The risk of obstruction is also unlikely due to the Sniffer pump being able to generate 10 PSI of pressure to forcibly clear any sort of blockage. However, since the Potty Sniffer is a new innovation, how the plumbing code is applied will be subject to interpretation by local inspectors so compliance related concerns should be verified directly with your municipality.
Exhausting directly to building exterior, same as a regular bathroom fan, is an acceptable alternative where plumbing codes are a concern.
How loud is the Sniffer pump?
We recommend installing the Sniffer pump remotely in a bathroom vanity cabinet which typically measures around 52dB at a distance of 3ft. This is just right for users who prefer a little “white noise” while doing their business.
When the Sniffer pump is installed in a toilet tank, this sound level increases to around 62dB at a distance of 3ft (about twice as loud). This is slightly less loud than a previous generation bathroom fan, up to about 2010 when manufacturers began actively competing to have the quietest bathroom fan as a selling point.
Check out our YouTube video: How Loud is a Potty Sniffer???
If silent operation is preferred, the Sniffer pump may be installed remotely to a basement, garage, or attic space where the pump operating noise can be fully isolated.
Is the Potty Sniffer safe if it gets wet?
Yes. The Sniffer pump operates with 12VDC power which is safe to touch and will not electrocute you when wet.
The Sniffer pump enclosure is designed to meet IP64 ratings which protects against water spray and splash, but not full submersion. The illuminated push button is also IP64 rated and can withstand water exposure and normal cleaning.
How energy efficient is the Potty Sniffer system?
The Sniffer pump runs between 22W and 36W of power consumption depending on the length of tubing used, with longer lengths having greater resistance. With 15′ of tubing the pump will normally run at 26W power consumption.
When idle, the illuminated LED push button and pump controller draws 0.6mA which is only 0.01W power consumption.
For comparison, an average bathroom exhaust fan requires 36W to operate – so about 30% more than a Sniffer pump. But where the real savings are is in the reduction in energy needed to re-heat or cool the makeup air being drawn into the home to replace air being expelled by the fan. A Sniffer pump exhausts 2.2CFM (cubic feet per minute) of air in comparison to a bathroom fan that ranges between 50 to 100+ CFM and requires several minutes of extended run time to fully clear the bathroom air space.
Can I disable the LED switch button light?
Yes. To disable the blue or green LED push button indicator light, simply disconnect the corresponding wire(s) shown here.
Where is the Potty Sniffer system made?
The Potty Sniffer is final assembled in the USA (Livonia, MI) with 50% US and 50% imported components content.
Our plastic enclosures, plastic components, tubing, and cables are manufactured in the USA.
As much as we wanted to source everything locally, the reality is that small motors and electronics, switches, connectors, and power supplies for consumer goods are difficult to source outside of Asia. We are committed to manufacturing locally and will work to increase our domestic parts content as our business grows.
INSTALLATION RELATED
How much time does it take to install a Potty Sniffer system?
This will depend on how complex the installation is, your skill level, and tools you have available. In most cases it should take about an hour for a simple install.
An example of a simple install is a toilet that is directly above an unfinished basement with a nearby electrical outlet:
- (15 mins) Install the Sniffer pump, intake shroud, and button switch into the toilet tank and verify fitment
- (15 mins) Drill a 1/2″ hole through the floor behind the toilet bowl. Feed tubing and power cable together through the hole
- (15 mins) Drill a 3/8″ hole through the toilet sanitary drainpipe and install the Potty Sniffer vent saddle fitting and pipe clamps
- (10 mins) Complete power cable, power adapter, and tubing connections and plug in main power
- (5 mins) Perform flush testing and verify that the vacuum relief tube and relief valve are properly adjusted
If you have to swap a nearby lamp holder fixture for one with a plug, this will add another 30 mins. Electrical work should only be done if you have the necessary skills to do this safely.
How far away can a Sniffer pump be installed remotely?
The Potty Sniffer has been verified to work properly with standard 3/8″ O.D. tubing and button switch cable lengths up to 60′.
For longer distances (up to 120′) use 1/2″ O.D. tubing for the main run and 1/2″ to 3/8″ push-to-connect straight connectors on each end to transition back to standard tubing.
The Sniffer pump performance has been verified to work properly up to 45′ with standard 18AWG power (speaker) cable length. For longer distances up to 100′, upgrade to 14AWG power (speaker) cable.
26AWG cable used for the illuminated button switch can be as long as needed since the circuit draws very little power and will continue to function properly until voltage drops below 5VDC.
Where can I purchase tubing or cables in case I need longer lengths?
The Potty Sniffer system was designed to use installation materials that are available most home improvement stores. Examples links provided below can be used as a starting point.
- 3/8″ O.D. Flexible Tubing: Home Depot Lowes Menards
- 18AWG Power (Speaker) Cable: Home Depot Lowes
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- Southwire (#5579xxxx…) is UL rated CL3 for in-wall use
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- RJ11 Telephone Cable: Home Depot Lowes Menards
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- Cable should be rated for in-wall use if required for your install
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- Stainless Steel Hose Clamps: Home Depot Lowes Menards
- 1/4″ ID (3/8″ OD) PEX Pipe Home Depot Lowes Menards
Extended length tubing, power cable, and connection kits are also available through our online store.
What should it cost to have someone install a Potty Sniffer system?
This could vary significantly based on the complexity of your installation, but we can consider the following scenario as a guideline:
For an installation that requires a wall outlet to be installed and tubing to be routed in-wall between building levels, you will need to hire an electrician. The average cost to install an electrical outlet and switch ranges between $150 to $300 for labor. A Potty Sniffer system installation would likely be in the same range based on job complexity. You should also be ready to provide tubing, cables, and Potty Sniffer connection kits since these are not normal items for an electrician to have on hand.
What should it cost for a new construction (whole home) Potty Sniffer system installation?
For a new home construction with 3 bathrooms, it will typically cost less than $700 for a Potty Sniffer whole home kit, tubing, and wiring. Your builder will need to provide you with their portion of cost (labor) to complete installation. We would be happy to discuss your project and installation requirements with you or your builder to assist with costing and system configuration. Contact us for more information and pricing.
Can I use other types of tubing or pipe for installation?
We recommend using flexible PVC tubing at the Sniffer pump and air exhaust fittings for ease of installation, however, any plastic tubing or pipe with 3/8″ O.D. may be used with the push-to-connect ports of the Sniffer pump and air exhaust kit fittings. Silicon or rubber tubing that is softer than the standard clear PVC will not work properly with the push-to-connect ports.
Other types of plastic tubing (PE or PEX) may be used for main tubing runs for remote pump installation but will require straight connectors or reducer connectors to transition back to 3/8″ O.D. flexible PVC at the main connections.
WARNING: DO NOT use push-to-connect fittings on portions of tubing run that are “in-wall” or otherwise not accessible after install. In-wall tubing runs should always be of continuous length or use PEX tubing and permanent connection fittings that are not likely to separate.
Can I use other types of wire for installation?
Yes. You will need to make sure that the wire gage is not too large for the screw terminal connectors, that it is able to fit under the toilet tank lid, and that it is rated for in-wall or riser use (if applicable). The power cable should be a minimum 18AWG gage diameter and capable to carrying 5A current.
For the illuminated button switch, the cable should be a minimum 26AWG gage diameter, with 4 (or more) conductors, and be rated for in-wall or riser use (if applicable).
How do I uninstall a Potty Sniffer system?
To uninstall a Potty Sniffer system, simply remove all of the components from the toilet tank and reinstall the refill tubing to the original flush valve connection point or retainer clip.
The air exhaust fitting may be left installed in place once the exhaust tubing is disconnected. To plug the air exhaust fitting, use the 3/8″ push-to-connect plug included with the Potty Sniffer kit to plug the open port. If you don’t have a plug available, the port may be plugged using any 3/8″ diameter rod or refer to our installation manual for instructions on how to make your own plug using a short piece of tubing and cigarette lighter flame.